The Farmer's Almanac predicts a pretty nasty winter, the National Weather Service thinks January through March will be cold and dry.
So far, we don't have a lot of data from wooly worms, persimmon seeds, or onion skins.
Some meteorologists say we could have a couple of sizeable snow events, but as anyone who's lived in Oklahoma for any length of time knows, predicting the weather can be quite tricky.
That's especially true when one tries to make long-range forecasts.
We found a winter weather outlook which predicts 11.3 inches of snow, well above the average of 9.7 inches annually.
However, as noted, the National Weather Service thinks the winter months will be cold, but fairly dry.
The all-time record for snowfall in a month occurred in February of 2011, when the NWS measured 22.5 inches.
The record for a year was in 1958, when Tulsa had 29.6 inches.
We've had several years where we got no snow at all, or just a trace.
The most recent was in 1981, when only nine-tenths of an inch of snow fell.