TULSA - After spending seven years as foster parents to a number of children, Gary O'Dell and his wife Tawnia decided to adopt.
It was an easy decision for them, he says.
"Every time they left you felt a tugging in your heart. We thought with all these kids out there that need homes, and we want kids, it seemed like a no-brainer."
They had any number of children from which to choose.
"They kept presenting us profile after profile until we found ones that were a fit for us."
Five years later, he's fiercely protective of his children, and has strong opinions about the case of "Baby Veronica," the young girl whose father, Dusten Brown, initially gave up his parental rights, but then fought to get her back when he learned she was adopted by a white family.
Brown is part Native American.
The girl's adoptive parents, Matt and Melanie Capobianco of James Island, South Carolina, have taken their battle to reclaim the girl all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court, and have won at every level -- but Brown refuses to return the girl to them.
O'Dell says that's just not right.
"Everybody has an opinion, here's mine. Everybody says 'people deserve second chances,' talking about parents in the court system," he says. "Children deserve a second chance too. There's a point where I believe your parent card deserves to be pulled, and those children need a second chance need to go on and have good, loving parents like my wife and I to take care of those children and love those children."
He says if the biological parents of his children ever tried to reclaim them, they'd have a major fight on their hands.
"Blood means nothing. I am those kids' father, and they're my children, and that's all there is to it."